Talk:Borrowed chord

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Fully Diminished Leading-Tone Seventh[edit]

It seems to me that the fully diminished leading-tone seventh is not in the parallel minor (the natural minor, that is). 72.75.110.42 (talk) 12:32, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not in the natural minor, but in the harmonic form of the minor scale. The same way that the dominant chord in a minor key is going to be major, according to the rules of Western classical music, because the seventh is raised in the harmonic minor scale. Rigaudon (talk) 16:41, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

This article needs some sources. There's no entry for borrowed chord in Grove. Does anyone have any ideas? Rigaudon (talk) 17:11, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Additional citations[edit]

Why, where, how, and what needs additional citations in this article? Hyacinth (talk) 22:01, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tag removed. Hyacinth (talk) 04:18, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Secondary dominants[edit]

Borrowed chords are also known as secondary dominants. (i.e. Piston: "Harmony" pg. 247) --Mjl1966 (talk) 02:03, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have Piston to hand, but in fact borrowed chords and secondary dominants are completely unrelated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.186.169.170 (talk) 21:35, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reqmusic[edit]

One audio example, of a borrowed chord in the backdoor progression, added. Hyacinth (talk) 22:01, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Functional analysis[edit]

The present article:

succinctly describes what happens, naming the main kinds of chords borrowed from related modes, and also
gives a simple reason why we use borrowed chords (to add variety and colour).

This is a good start.

However, it only touches in passing on:

the harmonic functions of the chords used (perhaps a deeper reason why);

and the example added most recently (by User:Hyacinth) suggests:

how tone leading interacts with the choice of borrowed chord.

Has anybody any useful references about these last two points? yoyo (talk) 17:21, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What example are you talking about? You could probably get a good reference through ILL. Hyacinth (talk) 07:54, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Harmonic minor ninth chord[edit]

In the explanation of ivb7, IVb7, and Vb9, following part is hard to me to understand, since it seems like incomplete sentences.

"Natural, harmonic, and descending melodic minor. Occurs in Phrygian, Aeolian, and Locrian. The Subdominant flat seventh, which contains an A♮, is borrowed from the parallel ascending melodic minor scale. Occurs in Dorian. Harmonic minor ninth chord."

Especially, the last sentence(?) is consist of just a noun phrase 'Harmonic minor ninth chord', what does these mean? A ninth chord in the harmonic minor scale?